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N I K I
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Quote from bbman :Yes, racing into points positions before any safety car interventions TWICE in one race, it's all down to luck, no skill involved whatsoever... :rolleyes:

Also, I only saw one mistake, and I remember he was last at the first restart, I really don't consider that getting away...

Nobody tries to deny skill from Prost, Mansell or Schuhmacher just because they happened to win in dominant cars... Hell, even Senna most of the time had a car that was superior to all others in the field... This bashing Vettel is quite baffling and frankly makes you lot sound desperate...

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He got up the grid then down for wing change and amazingly from near last to 4th, tires and SC helped only up to pass Button, 2 more points, sooo lucky.
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The pass:I had overlap, he couldn't close it, cappish. Much like how you passed me in R2.
Straights:I never hit him, it's a gentle brush, it doesn't even effect things very much... I never said I'm cleanest racer who has ever lived. I'm saying that I'm staying within the rules, that's my point.

And I can't understand why you two have to be so annoying when you get to overtaking me. It's not helping your cause much. I don't feel the fear very much, I'm way too experienced in my bubble haha.

The thing is, he followed for entire race and instead of playing tactics as you did in round 2, he just went for dumb hits to take my car down to peaces. Many times after the hits my car was damaged too... Might be also why I didn't go as fast I could have possibly wanted. Besides, it doesn't matter if someone is fractionally slower than the other, because of this or that, it's racing and we're entitled to race for our position aren't we.

So, every race it's argument with you and Isaac who refuse to take advice from me, because you miss the point. I'm not the cleanest racer ever, I'm much like Schumacher, dancing on the edge of the rules and as much as you annoy me with your silly nose poking rear end hitting that annoys you even more I guess. xD
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Quote from IsaacPrice :Thats why you're so desperate to get me a penalty, anyway.

That's why and I generally want to finish ahead of you any race. Turning into you when you tried to overtake, dude you had no right to be there, you deal with consequences of being there. Turning into you on straights, it's only slightly and it's just to break the effect of you ramming my ass, again. And yet, it's only not to be passed. And you did it last race to me and I said no word about that, cos I knew I'd do it myself.

If I wasn't punted in the rear again, I might have focused and gone quicker... You were just so desperate to pass me trying to make something happen, that will never happen. So pls let's rave about this all night.

EDIT: I did make a mistake after 48 laps of pressure and so what, that means I have to just stop and let you pass me... Get real. -.-

P.S. You might also want to learn about overlap rules, it's very important in close racing you know, I have links to CRC rules if you need help finding it.
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Quote from kart-36 :Of course this is only my opinion and im in no doubt Niki will reply saying im biased because I want him to lose points so I have a shot at the championship

Yes, you are biased and we can also say it could have been avoided if he hadn't gained unfair advantage by hitting my rear bumper for god knows which time in hairpin... My luck to have a close chaser on my tail on track with hairpins this season, only... I don't know, I at least tried to supply my case with rules... And both of you are just talking from a perspective of overaggressive drivers. Now, please don't call me overaggressive because I dived to pass, so did JButton many many times.

Would I put my nose in there you wonder, well obviously not. And once again, I was just holding my line even though it was a bit wider, because of the wall, then narrowed down to normal racing line, it can not be called unsafe rejoin, because he did not have enough overlap, as far as I know and can see and I never even left the track in the first place!

I know, you would want him to take more points away from me as possible and I know some other guys would like to be blocked a little bit less when I'm in front, him, you, Joonas and whoever, whereever, whenever. But I'm here to make the best possible result within the rules and please you know none of us does favors to each other, on track.

Anyway, it's down to admins to decide based on the rules, not our opinions.
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So, the race full of events, here's another essay as well as few thoughts on the incident as requested.

Just didn't have enough quali pace today, but fixed that with a great start. As I said already to Joonas contact we had was a mistake and even without it I would have passed easily. Now, after few laps I cought up with Isaac and after his mistake I was right there, ready to pounce and so I did take him down, with a brilliantly precise dive down the inside, as he left the door wide open, leaving him powerless but to make way as I was fully along side for a perfectly clean move. Gave him plenty of room on the exit, not pushing him into a wall or anything like that, dropped down to 1st and powered out into 2nd place.

He obviously couldn't take this without taking his rage out and plauted into back of me right away in the next corner. Obviously, he took unfair advantage and the place back, however all in vain as I got him under brakes in T1, again. Unfortunately, he just wouldn't deal with it and the pressure was so high I hit the wall later in the lap taking some damage.

Obviously, I pushed more than the tires really allowed to stay ahead and once they cooled down a bit I had a bit of gap in my pocket. But, he just wouldn't deal with it. As if I stole a place from him and after building this little gap, he would hit the back of my car under braking for hairpin to make my exit slow, numerous times in the race. His favorite driver (Alonso) would be disgusted by this behavior. Once, twice can be a mistake, but for the love of god... even Joe finds a way not to hit someone in the back under braking. I consider that the most unfair way to gain an advantage personally. If you have a look at the replay from my car you can perfectly see how easy it is to avoid that contact in hairpin when I was chasing him, just duck out to the right a little bit and you have same good exit, gained fairly. Sometimes, it was because of this why gap didn't increase and sometimes it was backmarkers playing more luck to him.

He even tried to make a dive on me in second to last corner somewhere mid race, but I had it covered, always. And driving to have the good exits, well isn't that something that you had done to me last race and still I made zero contact to you last race...

Now, the last lap. If I didn't brake as late as I did, he would have hit the back of me there as he did few laps earlier. In that incident few laps earlier he lost a bit of ground, but still subconsciously you always want to avoid these things. Anyway, wall hit is nothing bad, its last lap and bit more dmg dont matter, so I just keep the car in slide out of corner, have to mention I didn't really have other choice, the slide came natural and I had to keep it in slide, and suddenly I'm hit! It was the only line I could take and he wasn't even side by side, just lurking his nose in. You can't even pass around the outside in next corner. If you have a look at the replay you can see that he actually accelerates not to avoid contact, but to cause it. And eventhough the rules say that some contact is tolerable in last laps, which would only then make the hit in the rear bumper in hairpin justifiable, rules also say that competitors are asked to give their fellow competitors the fairest chance to escape on track incident. A desperate man, calls for desperate measures and replay can confirm that even though he saw me with car just in control, he decided to accelerate and cause contact in very convenient place (over bump) where I could no longer save it.

Was it this deliberate, I think we will never know. I can't understand why would someone compare this to round 1, where the situation isn't even similar to this. There, we were completely side by side, both in control over the cars and I was slightly in front, when passing, not just lurking my nose in, on exit of the corner and you didn't spin as a consequence.

If we're gonna compare it, I would compare it to Round 3, lap 1, when he dived into fast right corner and I left room with drift around him, and that time he avoided this deadly contact, unlike this time. I hope the justice will be served.

Also, the traffic could be a little bit more cooperative I have to say. Many times I lost gap to Isaac because I had to overtake traffic as if I was racing them for position. Now, I understand when it's someone racing closely, even then they need to compromise a little bit, but when someone is alone being lapped, really rude.

Grats to Joe. That pace is little bit out of reach it seems, this race, just like it was at round 1, one has to say in all fairness.

And grats to my teammate Sma, finishing P6 in only his 2nd or 3rd race in your series.
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The front of the grid will hopefully escape pileup. But, eventually SC might come out.
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A very frustrating little track to get the best out of it. We at Ixion have spent quite a bit of time on it this week and we still believe that setups can be better than where we are at. It's like little Monaco of LFS, always can be better.

I particularly like sector one and that interesting hairpin. Twisty stuff is nice too, but a touch too bumpy for my flavor. The guys who drove 24h race on so4r (this track with straight going longer to t1) might know it a little bit better than me, still the tires are big issue. The short straight really doesn't give opportunity to cool down at all and fast corners prevent you from keeping them cool in the first place.

The overtaking will be particularly difficult as it ever is, just a bit more difficult for all this characteristics of this track. Let's have a fair and cleaner racing than we usually do.

As ever I hope for wind, as this seems to be where I am stronger than Joe atm, because his PB from today looks too amazing as well as his tire management from first two rounds. And it will be interesting to see how consistent can he be with so many walls in the race.

However, the goal for me still stays to finish on podium and possibly extend the championship lead.
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FIA must give penalty to Vettel. No stopping on track to save fuel for inspection. Remember Hamilton in Spain.

This is gonna be hell of a race. \o/
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Yeah, FZ5 doesn't feel too difficult to drive, more like gt3 car, but I think that's because it's only car without a turbo and we have so much FZR experience. I believe that someone less experienced might not handle it so very well and might say FXO is easier to drive. FZ5's problem might be it's weight and that's why it might have lost time in sc2 of bl1r (Essses). So maybe adding more weight would be bad, just needs 1% less? Just a thought after hearing Dennis' impressions from Fern Bay.

PMD is an expert in this testing? Would like to hear him on this subject.

P.S. lol bl1r has a huge straight, fxo can't be too slow...
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My first experience with slick-mod. Gave it an hour, drove a 100Kms.

Impressions so far are that FXO is too freakishly quick. It's just bang on into the 19s. Yeah, it might be little bit slower with R3 in the race and on straights, but car is IMO atm by far the quickest of the lot on clear pace.

XRT is got this weird wobbly feeling which i dont like, probably need a bit stiffer suspension to get rid of that. Very quick as well. Tires look to be heating up tbh, and maybe r3r3 in the race even if r2r2 race tires dont work.. live for slick guys know more about that i guess.

FZ5, well the car is beautiful over the curbs and heats tires less than xrt surprisingly, but im surprised to see it so slow in sc2 and yes I fixed the gearing. I suppose it's over-restricted as I did more laps in it than xrt and xrt was straight equal on pace with it. Maybe 1% less and 10kg instead? Didn't really check top speed delta.

RAC, well a horrible car of lfs, still horrible with slicks, Yann showed its quick, but its horrible to drive with it's snappiness and still better tires than any other car... I'm afraid RAC might be quickest with proper setup...

RB4, I did only 1 lap in it and it's really quick, but eats up fronts and most deff needs stiffer tire in front for race. But horrible to drive as I don't like 4wd tbh.
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Polako ili brzo, sljedecu rundu ce da bude kroviranja u to sam siguran.
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Just watched ur vid last round onboard, good stuff guys.
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Pa daaa, ko bi reko da ce vampir da to takticki odigra. Ono vidio sam ga kako se zalijece u krv, al neee. Steta za Milana, druga trka mi se cinila kao vjecnost posto je vampir bio skoro krug iza. -.-

Evo mali rezime trenutnog poretka.
Osim vec spomenute cetvorice vodecih vozaca, vecina vozaca je koji su se pojavili samo na nekoliko utrka i 'ukrali' bodove redovnim ucesnicima, pa je njihov poredak od 8. mjesta na dole. Naravno ovi vozaci su doprinijeli svojim timovima u poretku timova.

Dakle na petom mjestu imamo sofketa sa poprilicnim zaostatkom za prvom cetvorkom, sestog Marina koji je strasno napredovao u posljednje dvije runde zahvaljujuci dobroj snalazljivosti pri izbjegavanju incidenata i sedmog Trnju koji marljivo skuplja bodove unatoc svemu. Dvije zanimljive grupice.

Ja i plus onih 40ak Tonijevih bodova, vodimo poredak timova ispred AMT-a i SERT-a koji su prosuli dosta bodova boreci se jedni s drugima na stazi. A, SHD i RRT sa jednim vozacem nisu daleko od SERT-a.


Sljedecu rundu se vozimo u FWD, po posljednji puta u ovoj sezoni u FWD.
Vukovi iz sjene : Trofeji
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Nikifor Đaković
Utrka : 16
Prvenstva : 1
Pobjede : 12
Podiji : 14
Bodovi : 383
Pole pozicije : 9
Najbrži krugovi : 16

Siniša Dinkić
Utrka : 16
Prvenstva : 0
Pobjede : 2
Podiji : 8
Bodovi : 217
Pole pozicije : 0
Najbrži krugovi : 0

Vladan Sofijanić
Utrka : 9
Prvenstva : 0
Pobjede : 1
Podiji : 3
Bodovi : 79
Pole pozicije : 0
Najbrži krugovi : 0

Damir Dizdarević
Utrka : 2
Prvenstva : 0
Pobjede : 1
Podiji : 2
Bodovi : 46
Pole pozicije : 0
Najbrži krugovi : 0

Milan Radonjić
Utrka : 16
Prvenstva : 0
Pobjede : 0
Podiji : 7
Bodovi : 192
Pole pozicije : 0
Najbrži krugovi : 0

Srđan Milašinović
Utrka : 16
Prvenstva : 0
Pobjede : 0
Podiji : 5
Bodovi : 185
Pole pozicije : 0
Najbrži krugovi : 0

Vladan Pavlović
Utrka : 8
Prvenstva : 0
Pobjede : 0
Podiji : 3
Bodovi : 109
Pole pozicije : 0
Najbrži krugovi : 0

Toni Aničić
Utrka : 6
Prvenstva : 0
Pobjede : 0
Podiji : 2
Bodovi : 42
Pole pozicije : 0
Najbrži krugovi : 0

Leon Vidović
Utrka : 2
Prvenstva : 0
Pobjede : 0
Podiji : 2
Bodovi : 30
Pole pozicije : 0
Najbrži krugovi : 0

Marin Tomaić
Utrka : 12
Prvenstva : 0
Pobjede : 0
Podiji : 1
Bodovi : 66
Pole pozicije : 0
Najbrži krugovi : 0
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Crni je ocigledno kriv sto se prekocio na startu za drugu utrku i nije mi jasno zasto je tako kasno kocio sa tako ostrom linijom i autom ispred sebe!

Trnja je ocigledno kriv sto za sudar s Vuletom. Evo jedan mali savjet za Trnju. Kada je auto na unutarnjoj putanji, a ti na vanjskoj, ocigledno je da ce on imati manju brzinu kroz apex od tebe i losiji izlaz. Ovo si mogao iskoristiti tako da si usao nize ispod njega dok je on isao siroko kroz apex i uhvatio ga na apexu (potez zvan switch-back), ili ako nemas dovoljno samopouzdanja u tom trenutku u gume, gorivo itd, onda si trebao ici lakse s gasom i sacekati dok on izadje iz krivine, pa za njim.

Za ova dva incidenta ce biti dodijeljene kazne ukoliko neko uruci proteste na iste.
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Quote from sermilan :Krug i sektor u kome se desio incident: Trka 2, krug 2, sektor 3
Vrijeme pocetka incidenta na reprizi: 4.05
Kratak opis: Zakucava me u zid na ciljnom pravcu... tu i zbog toga završavam trku.

Zaista jedinstven incident. 11 uopce ne reagira na zavjetrinu i gura 07 konstantno, i nakon prvog kontakta ne pokusava usporiti ili promijeniti putanju i sve dok kontakt nije zavrsio drzi pun gas i ravan volan. Da li je ovo zaista ne namjerna greska kao posljedica nedovoljnog treninga ili neki vid osvete nije jasno, no incident je cista krivica od strane 11. Posto 11 nije zavrsio utrku i posto obicno starta sa zacelja poretka slijedi sljedeca kazna.

Start iz boksova za sljedecu utrku za vozaca 11. (Prva utrka, osme runde.)
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Quote from sermilan :Broj, ime i prezime vozaca: 11 Nenad Trninić
Krug i sektor u kome se desio incident: Trka 2, krug 2, sektor 1
Vrijeme pocetka incidenta na reprizi: 2.40
Kratak opis: Izgurava me sa staze prilikom pokušaja odbrane. Rezultat: gubljenje vremena, oštećenje vešanja... potpuno nepotrebno

Quote from Pravila :Pretjecanje:
Ako obilazite nekoga sa unutrašnje strane, vaš automobil pred ulazak u krivinu mora biti bar do polovine dužine protivničkog automobila da bi vi imali pravo prolaza.

Blagi zavoj u kome se desio incident smatramo zavojom, a ne pravcom. Prema trenutnim pravilima razmatramo sljedecu situaciju. Vozac 07 izlazi iz zavjetrine dosta rano i ovo daje dosta vremena vozacu 11 da odluci kako ce da brani poziciju. Vidimo da 07 ocekuje cist prolaz kroz krivinu. Vidi se da 07 pocinje pretjecanje dosta rano prije krivine. 11 uopce ne vidimo gdje je vozac 07 jer mu je u mrtvom kutu i ocigledno je da vozac 11 uzima sada trkacu putanju u nadi da vozac 07 nije dovoljno napario.

Dakle sa helikopter kamere i slike predulazak u krivinu vidimo da 11 skrece dosta rano prije zavoja kako bi uzeo zalet i liniju u zavoj i u tom trenutku 07 nije dovoljno napario kako bi ostvario pravo na liniju i pravo prolaska. Da kaze na ulazu u krivinu ili prilikom ulaza u krivinu onda prema slikama naulazuukirinu i uulazuukrivinu 07 bi imao pravo na liniju.

U prvoj utrci je 11 bio u slicnoj situaciji sa 00 kada je bio i cistiji slucaj u kome je imao pravo da izbolira suparnika.

Prema trenutnim pravilima na ovom incidentu nema daljnih akcija.

Trnja je bio 4.57sec sporiji od Milana u kvalifikacijama, 5.44sec sporiji u najbrzem krugu u prvoj utrci i 7.15sec prosjecno sporiji po krugu u prvoj utrci. Ocigledno je da je bio ispred Milana u drugoj utrci samo cistom srecom i da sa 20 krugova i ovolikom razlikom u vremenu po krugu je bilo samo pitanje vremena kada ce izgubiti poziciju. Kao sto je Milan rekao, doista nepotrebno i Trnja je trebao pokazati postovanje u ovoj situaciji i ne blokirati vozaca koji je ~5 sekundi po krugu brzi od njega iako je imao i vremena da to ucini i pravo na to.
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Dobar start, no svejedno, samo je 380 metara trebalo da Milan izadje iz zavjetrine u napad, naravno na vanjsku, a posto je ostalo jos nekih 220 metara do ulaza u krivinu on je uspio samo na vanjskoj da poravna, no naravno imat ce sada zalet za sljedeci pravac, koji ce ocigledno da bude dulji od 600 metara. Odlucujem da odmah branim prvu onu flatout krivinu unutarnju i bjezim mu sa zavjetrinom lijevo odmah, prije nego sto i znamo vec smo tamo i pokusavam da se prestrojim da branim unutarnju za sljedecu, no posto idemo ja 300, a on 315 km/h, ovo se cini sa izuzetno blagim pomakom i uspijevam da odbranim samo srednju liniju dakle, a njemu ostaje unutarnja i dalje, no dosta uza sada. (Mora se spomenuti da hvala Bogu ostecenja nisu toliko izmodelirana, jer bi tu ostali ja bez gume, on bez krila).

Ponovno smo naparili na ulazu u T3 (spora u SC1), ovaj puta ja na vanjskoj, al krivina ima nagib i moze da se ide vanjskom ovdje, a i Milan ide srednjom linijom, pa ce morat da koci na ulazu ranije. Cudom nekim, koda sam znao malo vise prostora ostavio, i njemu zadrifta bolid, izlazimo ponovno poravnati, no bolji zalet imam jer sam prije na gasu mogo bit sirom putanjom i skoro da mogu da uzmem cistu liniju u sljedecu krivinu, gdje on ponovno na unutarnjoj, no bez ikakvog rizika malo sire, jer bolid stvarno gripa bolesno i svejedno nema opasnosti dalje iako je slabiji izlaz.

Najzabavniji dio eventa za mene. Strasno je fino utrkivat se sa nekim tko ima kontrolu nad vozilom.

Steta za sve sudare u drugoj utrci. Odluka da se ne restarta utrka je donesena zato sto ostecenja na bolidima nisu bila prevelika ili nikakva, incidenti su bili pojedinacni i samo po jedna osoba je stradala u svakom incidentu, tako da se za to mogu dodijeliti pojedinacne kazne, i zapravo nije puno vozaca ni stradalo u T1/T2 incidentima. Restart se moze desiti samo kad recimo 80% vozaca strada u pravom krkljancu! Kao npr F1 SPA 1998. Nedo Bog da se to ikad desi.


Koliko vidim po bodovima sam sada neuhvatljiv, morat cu jos da izracunam kada budu officijelni rezultati, no sada mi se cini da imam 303 boda, dok je Milan na 140, Vampir na 139, a Crni na 133 (za njih sa najlosijom rundom izbacenom) i 150 bodova jos dostupnih titula za mene matematicki osigurana.

Ocigledno moram da zahvalim Trnji sto je potro sve moje protivnike. Kakogod, borba za drugo mjesto je stvarno bliska u poretku vozaca i bit ce zanimljivo vidjet kako ce to da odigra do kraja, a i u poretku timova jos je sve otvoreno.

Hm, zanimljivo da nisam uspio da oborim Schumacherov rekord. Trebalo mi je 70% sezone da osvojim naslov, dok je bogu trebalo samo 64.7% 2002. xd
Sedma runda - Protesti
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Protesti se uvazavaju od 07:00h 31.10.2012. (sutra) i tema je otvorena 24h od tada, znaci zatvara se u 07:00h 1.11.2012.

Forma za protest:

Broj, ime i prezime vozaca:
Krug i sektor u kome se desio incident:
Vrijeme pocetka incidenta na reprizi:
Kratak opis:
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Ixion Simsports,TBO,XRT,09,N I K I,Nikifor Đaković,Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Thanks James.
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OLFSL 2012 - Season finale Action

Jump right in middle of action from OLFSL's season finale between rsg077 (OWRL F1 Champion), JPeace (Real life FBM racer) and myself (current OLFSL Champion).
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Walter pls.
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Quote from kart-36 :Haha you can't pick your own penalty The admins have decided and as Walter has already told you, it's final.

Yeah, I can't pick my own penalty. You got that. Still, my point is their decision was rushed in and if something like that ever happens again they should take their time before they make it final, not take only 10 minutes and quite possibly make a wrong decision again.
Quote from kart-36 :Just drop it and next time think twice when you spin me that's all

Who said I will spin you out again? Who said I will even be in position to spin you out?

I can't understand why do you want to qualify so badly on pole position if you hate racing alone and then go waiting for me. For me there is no better feeling than when I lead race from pole position, all alone in my world, pulling away from everyone else, cosistantly, making a nice gap to them.

If you don't like it like that, qualify 3rd or 5th or something and do what you like more then.

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LMFAO Fat smilie. The end.
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